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	<title>Comments on: Cider &#8211; Organic or Slow Food movement?</title>
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	<description>A real passion for apples</description>
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		<title>By: Torkard Cider</title>
		<link>http://www.real-cider.co.uk/cider-organic-or-slow-food/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Torkard Cider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do not spray our fruit - but like others cannot claim to be &quot;organic&quot; as we do not know the long-term history of the land on which we have planted and continue to plant our trees. The costs of registering as &quot;organic&quot; is another turn-off. So we grow our own apples as organically as we can. However, we do ensure we follow the &quot;Slow Food&quot; principles by only using apples grown within the county boundaries of Nottinghamshire - we help support small Nottinghamshire growers and those who grow old and threatened apple varieties that would otherwise fall by the way-side of modern intensive bush-orchards. Our mantra is to make a true Nottinghamshire Cider, the best we can with the fruit grown locally. A local cider for local people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do not spray our fruit &#8211; but like others cannot claim to be &#8220;organic&#8221; as we do not know the long-term history of the land on which we have planted and continue to plant our trees. The costs of registering as &#8220;organic&#8221; is another turn-off. So we grow our own apples as organically as we can. However, we do ensure we follow the &#8220;Slow Food&#8221; principles by only using apples grown within the county boundaries of Nottinghamshire &#8211; we help support small Nottinghamshire growers and those who grow old and threatened apple varieties that would otherwise fall by the way-side of modern intensive bush-orchards. Our mantra is to make a true Nottinghamshire Cider, the best we can with the fruit grown locally. A local cider for local people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Callender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Callender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really interesting to hear your experience with &#039;organic&#039; Mark. Thanks so much for taking the time to comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s really interesting to hear your experience with &#39;organic&#39; Mark. Thanks so much for taking the time to comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2008 we made a cider from cull fruit grown organically to Soil Association standards. We paid a premium for the fruit, but since we are not registered as organic could not market the resulting cider as organic in any way and therefore could not charge a premium for the cider. Most irritating of all is the fact that this &#039;organic&#039; fruit had been repeatedly sprayed with Sulphur in an attempt to reduce the incidence of scab during a very wet summer. All our other ciders and perrys are made from fruit grown extensively in totally unsprayed, largely unmanged orchards, ie. more &#039;organic&#039; than the organic apples. For this and other reasons (ridiculous food miles, veg grown for disease resistance rather than flavour for example) I choose to put locality and other quality issues above a food or drinks claims for organic credentials. &#039;Organic&#039; is just another business with its own profit agenda...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2008 we made a cider from cull fruit grown organically to Soil Association standards. We paid a premium for the fruit, but since we are not registered as organic could not market the resulting cider as organic in any way and therefore could not charge a premium for the cider. Most irritating of all is the fact that this &#39;organic&#39; fruit had been repeatedly sprayed with Sulphur in an attempt to reduce the incidence of scab during a very wet summer. All our other ciders and perrys are made from fruit grown extensively in totally unsprayed, largely unmanged orchards, ie. more &#39;organic&#39; than the organic apples. For this and other reasons (ridiculous food miles, veg grown for disease resistance rather than flavour for example) I choose to put locality and other quality issues above a food or drinks claims for organic credentials. &#39;Organic&#39; is just another business with its own profit agenda&#8230;</p>
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